to bet he hasn't won, that he can't carry ohio, so he has to go to pennsylvania as john mccain did, as other republicans have over the last 12, 20 years, and they never carried the state. >> so why -- with that number, and the -- with the polling that has taken place in pennsylvania, what message is out there that gives the romney camp the idea they can win pennsylvania? why would they waste days in pennsylvania and not ohio and florida? >> i think they're worried that they can't crack ohio. the president went out there, defined mitt romney in the summer, mitt romney made some progress after that first debate, but ohio settled back down around where it was, i think really five or six points in the president's favor. so they have this dishonest ad on saying jeep is going to ship its jobs to china. and the great irony of that ad, by the way, in a news broadcast in ohio, you can see 22 consecutive political ads, the newscasters says romney has a fake ad about jobs being shipped to china. let's go to commercial break and you see the ad. so the ad is preemptively denounced. >> what abou